David's Korg DS-8 Page
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I am no longer updating these pages.
I will leave them up indefinitely for the benefit of DS-8 users all over the world,
but I do not plan to add any more content.
Introduction/Background The DS-8 never experienced much popularity. While some may argue that its short life in the spot light was because it lacked capability and it never really lived up to its expectations, I am of the opinion that its demise had more to do with a changing market than anything else. Within months after introducing the DS-8, Korg released its monumental M1 and the rest is history: FM faded away as waveform sampling became the "next big thing." (Incidentally, the Korg 707 is essentially a small, 4-octave DS-8 intended for live, stand-up performances. There are a few minor internal differences, but it has the same programming architecture as the DS-8.) DS-8 Features
DS-8 Reviewed "...what does it sound like? There's an unambiguous answer to that one: It sounds a lot like a DX7 (the old one, that is). Considering the ways in which Korg has limited access to FM parameters ..., the DS-8 is capable of producing a remarkable variety of sounds." "As for features, the DS-8 is pretty competitive with other relatively inexpensive synthesizers, and it's multi-timbral to boot. " My opinion: However, being an FM synthesizer, it doesn't make very "approachable" or "familiar" sounds. The DS-8 is good for unique solo voicing and textural layering but it isn't well suited to be a stand alone unit (meaning I would not recommend it as a first or only keyboard.)
DS-8 Today
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KORG DS-8 FAQ
Even though it didn't sell well, there are enough DS-8's out there on the used market that I get get a lot of e-mail. It appears that I may have the only site on the web dedicated to this relatively unknown synthesizer. To date, I have had contact with 300+ different DS-8 owners via the net (this page averages about 250 hits per month). Here are a few common questions and the answers I usually give.
Q1) I just picked up a used DS-8. Where can I get the manual?
A1) Just do a google search, you can find it in pdf.
Q2) Do you have a manual? Will you copy it for me? Please,
please, please, will you copy it for me?!?!?!?
A2) Yes, I have a manual. It is copyrighted by Korg and I do not have their
permission to copy it for general distribution. So, no, I will not copy it for you.
Sorry. See Q1.
Q3) Where can I find RAM/ROM cards?
A3) In short, they're rare. They were even hard to come by when I bought my DS-8 new
back in '87.
Q4) I finally found a RAM card! How do I use it?
A4) The DS-8 stores 100 sounds (one bank) in its internal memory.
Depending on which card you have, you can store either 1, 2 or 4 banks. In all cases, the
sounds in bank 1 can be accessed along with with internal sounds using the Ext Program
selector (the button next to Int which is to the right of the LCD screen). Sounds
contained in the other banks
(2-4, if applicable) can only be accessed when transferred to internal memory bank.
Card functions are Functions 4,5 and 6. In order to save to a card, External memory
protect must be off. This is done by selecting Function 4 and turning Ext to Off. Function
5 is used to save data to a card. To save data, the card must be formatted. If you attempt
to save to an unformatted card it will first prompt you to format. You will use the UP/YES
key to answer yes. Depending on how many banks your card supports you will need to select
the destination bank. Loading from a card is done with Function 6 and is similar to
saving, in that you choose the source bank and use the cursor buttons and the Up/Yes
and/or Down/No buttons to make selections.
Q5) Where can I get more sounds?
A5) I had quite a collection until my old MIDI computer died. I have recovered
a few and made them available for download (see below). Try searching google.
Q6) Is there a way to restore the factory sounds?
A6) First, you will need to download the factory sounds. Click here.
Then, you will need a computer with MIDI and software that supports SYSEX data
transfer. Then see the next question.
Q7) How do I upload data to the DS-8?
A7) The MIDI OUT of the computer (transmitting) should be connected to the MIDI IN of the
DS-8. Turn off internal memory protect. Set the DS-8 to SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE ON
(Function 8). Transmit the data using your MIDI program.
The DS-8 must be set to the same MIDI channel that was used to store the data. Typically this would be channel 1. But if you're not having luck with channel 1, try all the other channels.
Q8) How do I hook MIDI up to my computer? Can you help me figure out
what I need for my sound card so I can connect my DS-8 and run MIDI programs?
A8) At one time, I used to keep up with all the latest in MIDI gizmos and gadgets.
These days, I'm lucky if I can find time to even turn on my system and play a few Bach
Inventions. I use an old PC, so I don't have a lot of experience with newer MIDI
setups. In short, I'm really not the best person to answer these questions.
DS-8 MIDI IMPLEMENTATION
(partial list)
RECOGNIZED RECEIVED DATA
Channel Messages
System Real Time Messages
System Exclusive Messages
(1) Device ID Request
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0100 nnnn Format ID 4nh (n=ch)
1111 0111 EOX
(2) 1 Voice Dump Request
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0011 nnnn Format ID 3nh (n=ch)
0001 0011 DS-8 ID 13h
0001 0000 1 voice dump request 10h
1111 0111 EOX
(3) 1 Voice Dump
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0011 nnnn Format ID 3nh (n=ch)
0001 0011 DS-8 ID 13h
0100 0000 1 voice dump 40h
0ddd dddd
.
.
1 voice data (80 bytes)
.
0ddd dddd
1111 0111 EOX
(4) All Voice Dump Request
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0011 nnnn Format ID 3nh (n=ch)
0001 0011 DS-8 ID 13h
0001 1100 All dump request 1Ch
1111 0111 EOX
(5) All Voice Dump
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0011 nnnn Format ID 3nh (n=ch)
0001 0011 DS-8 ID 13h
0100 1100 All voice dump 4Ch
.
.
All voice data (7544 bytes)
.
1111 0111 EOX
(6) 1 Combi Dump Request
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0011 nnnn Format ID 3nh (n=ch)
0001 0011 DS-8 ID 13h
0001 1001 1 Combi dump Request 19h
1111 0111 EOX
(7) 1 Combi Dump
Byte Description
1111 0000 Exclusive status
0100 0010 Korg ID 42h
0011 nnnn Format ID 3nh (n=ch)
0001 0011 DS-8 ID 13h
0100 1001 1 Combi Dump 49h
0ddd dddd
.
.
1 Combi data (56 bytes)
.
0ddd dddd
1111 0111 EOX
(8) All Combi Dump Request
(9) All Combi Dump
(10) Panel Mode Request
(11) Panel Mode Change
(12) Keyboard Mode Request
(13) Keyboard Mode Change
(14) Paramter Change
(15) Voice Write Request
(16) Combi Write Request
MIDI IMPLEMENTATION CHART
FUNCTION | TRANSMITTED | RECOGNIZED | REMARKS |
Basic Channel Power On Setting Range |
1 -- 16 1 -- 16 |
1 -- 16 1 -- 16 |
Memorized |
Mode Power On Message Default |
- 1 x |
- 1 OMNI=On/Off |
Ignore |
Note Number Actual Notes |
24 -- 108 --------- |
0 -- 127 24-108 |
- |
Velocity Note On Note Off |
- o x |
- o |
9n, v=1..127 |
Aftertouch Keys Channels |
x o |
x o |
- |
Pitch Bender | o | o | - |
Control Change 1 2 6 7 10 64 65 96 99 |
- o o o o x o o o o |
- o o o o o o o o o |
- Pitch MG* Timbre MG* Data entry*** Volume* Panpot* Damper pedal* Porta switch* Data increment*** Data decrement*** |
Program Change ** Actual Number |
0 -- 9 ------ |
0 --99 0 -- 127 |
- |
Exclusive *** | o | o | voice dump, etc. |
Common Song positions Song select Tune |
- x x x |
- x x x |
- |
Real Time Clock Command |
- x x |
- x x |
- |
Auxiliary Local ON/OFF All Notes OFF Active Sensing **** Reset |
- x x o x |
- o o o x |
123 -- 127 |
Notes:
o=YES, x=NO
* Transmit/Receive if CNTRL is ON in FUNCTION
** Transmit/Receive if PROG is ON in FUNCTION
*** Transmit/Receive if EXCLUSIVE is ON in FUNCTION
**** Transmit/Receive if ACT is ON in FUNCTION
Mode 1: OMNI ON, POLY; Mode 3: OMNI ON,
MONO
Mode 2: OMNI OFF, POLY; Mode 4: OMNI OFF. MONO
DS-8 Patches
Sounds and Sound Banks
I have a modest collection of sounds, some of which I programmed myself (particularly the
ones that have Japanese names). Feel free to help yourself.
SYSEX binaries (zipped):
stock.zip
- factory sounds
b2.zip
- miscellaneous
b3.zip
- some of my own mixed in with factory sounds
b4.zip
- some of my own mixed in from some I got from Korg (you may need to set the DS-8 to
channel 10 to load this one)
I used to have quite a lot more sounds, but my former MIDI computer -- an old 8088 -- died and went to PC heaven, taking its ancient 20MB hard drive and my precious sounds and sequences with it. I have learned a valuable lesson about backing up data!
Copyright © 1995-2000, 2011 David C. Copley last updated Dec2011 after nearly a decade of being archived